by successfulbob | Guest Post, Marketing Monday, photography, success education
Portrait Pricing Guidelines with Steve Bedell – Part Three
Steve Bedell shares his thoughts on Portrait Pricing.
“As I reviewed my part 1 and part 2 of this pricing topic here on Successful-Photographer I was astounded that having so much knowledge I wasn’t worth about 27 million dollars! In any case, there was great response to the article about pricing in general and how to determine where you should be in it so now we continue with specifics.
Please note that much of this is my opinion but a great deal of it is what I’ve learned by PSTM (people smarter than me) so I stray from these guidelines at your own risk. With that in mind, let’s get going. Again, my mind kinda wanders all over the place so things may not be in proper order, but put up with me, the info is the same.
ONE: Should I have a printed price list?
OK, I’m not kidding here. I see in online groups people asking for all kinds of feedback on their price list. NOT the pricing, but how the price list looks. They’ll discuss fonts, layout, etc. They’ll look nice and pretty but does it really matter? We’ll come back to that but question two is related so let’s get to that right now.
TWO: Should I post prices online?
This one is MUCH easier to answer: NO!
Why? Because if someone goes online looking for a photographer and does a Google search and they see your 8×10 (the standard that they all know) is $195 and Joe’sSuckyPhotos.com is $29, which one will they choose? They’ll most likely choose Joe because they are just looking at prices and when you compare pricing in a vacuum you are looking at a commodity. If they visit your site and instead see your special booklet that tells them ‘5 Tips for a Great Family Portrait’ and lots of testimonials you have already set yourself apart from the bottom feeders.
OK, so now that we have a little background, should you have a printed price list?
I say yes, so it doesn’t look like you’re just pulling prices out of the air. But do you need to print up hundreds and send/email them to everyone who contacts you?
No.
You only really need one, and that’s for you to use in the sales room. Don’t believe me? Bradford Rowley uses a SLIDE of the price list during the sales session and only leaves it there for as short as possible. You want people focused on picking the best pose and the proper size portrait, you do NOT want them sitting there with their nose in a price list.
A little caveat here. I am talking about a PRICE LIST, not a Product Guide. A product guide will show sample of the products and a starting price or price range. One of the best I’ve seen is by Megan Dipiero. We featured Megan a little while ago, you can see her guide HYPERLINK “http://files.megandipiero.com/product-guide/?page=1” \t “_blank” here.
THREE: When should I show the price list?
There are different schools of thought on this.
Some say don’t ever show it, just let them come to the order appointment, write up what they want, then tell them the price.
Others tell them pricing during the consultation when the session is booked.
I’ve used both methods, they both work. I prefer the up front method, it makes me and them more comfortable at the sales session, less like I’m holding the images hostage. Do what you’re comfortable with and what works for you. Previous to a consultation, always use a price range instead of exact pricing, like ‘Our gift prints start at $95 and wall collections begin at $1800’ or something along those lines. They’ll have a better idea of why you charge what you do during the consultation.
FOUR: Good/Better/Best pricing
This model has been around since the dinosaurs. Why? Because it works! I have my ‘paper prints at level 1, canvas prints at 2, and Gallery Wraps and metals at level 3. Decide size first, then finish. This gives you an opportunity to make more income on the same sized print. As an example, my 16×20’s are $600/$750/$925. This may seem very low to some and high to others. Also, don’t just call them finish one, two, three. Use names like The Masters, The Venetian, etc and include a descriptive paragraph like ‘enhanced by our artist and bonded to natural fiber canvas’.
FIVE: Should I have a contract?
I read many posts where photographers sound like wannabe lawyers. I like to concentrate on the experience so introducing a contract into the mix just doesn’t work for me. You should have policies for payment but in 40 years of doing this I’ve had no need for a contract. Weddings, yes, portraits, no. It’s up to you.”
More to come as Steve brings the rest of this home in Part 4 on Successful-Photographer.
Steve Bedell has been a professional photographer for over 35 years. He has done weddings, portrait and
commercial work but now restricts his business to portraits only.
Steve holds the Master of Photography and Photographic Craftsman degrees from the Professional Photographers of America and is a PPA Approved Print Juror.
He has been named the New Hampshire Photographer of the Year a record 8 times and in 2011 was awarded the New England Photographer of the Year title. His specialty is natural light portraiture.
He has written hundreds of articles for photo publications, taught classes and workshops nationwide and produced several lighting DVDs. His private newsletter, EPhoto, reaches over 2000 photographers. Steve was a regular contributor to Shutterbug magazine.
by successfulbob | photography, photography education, photography seminar
Imaging USA 2019 – Atlanta, GA
Professional Photographers of America held it’s ** sesquicentennial anniversary convention in the headquarters city of Atlanta, GA. It was a great convention!

Winging toward Imaging USA Atlanta
The programs were well thought out and helpful I particularly enjoyed the Pre-Convention class with Michelle Parsley on Clone Painting with Adobe Photoshop. This is a technique to create more painterly looking images with a brush-like feel to them. Learning how to set up the brushes in Photoshop to mimic the feel and application of paint was incredible. This is one of the things on which I am working to further the artistic feel of my work as a Lens Based Artist.

Opening Keynote with Scott Stratton – Great start to the convention!!
The other program that caught extra from me attention was from Chris Knight. I already had his book The Dramatic Portrait which I thought was well written and informative.
PPA Council
It was also time for PPA Council to meet. I am a member of Council and have been for a number of years. This is where the rules and By-laws are adjusted when necessary. Sometimes there are issues of which members are divided. This was one of those years with a few issues needing some discussion. Passions were shared and the vote was taken. This led to the creation of a new degree based on wedding images. The designation is M.Wedding.Photog. I look forward to the time that members will be able to earn this degree and use it to help promote themselves to clients showing that they have extra dedication to improving their work.
Friends Like Family
PPA’s convention is also a time to renew friendships and network with fellow photographers. People often ask why I still go to conventions instead of learning what I need to online. I’ve found you learn almost as much, if not more, in the hallways and over a beer in the bar as in the classes. In addition, you can not pick up the phone and ask a video a question!!
Yours in Creative Photography, Bob
More from the convention in the next post.
** means 150 years!
by successfulbob | Guest Post, Marketing Monday, photography
Portrait Pricing Guidelines – Part Two – Marketing Monday
with Steve Bedell
See Part One here
This article is from EPhoto Newsletter, a free bi-weekly newsletter for professional photographers. To subscribe for more great info contact Steve at smbedell@gmail.com.
Mistake number 4: NOT doing in person sales!
First, you have to remember I’ve been doing this since the mid 70’s. How else could we sell except for in person? I’m continually baffled by newbies who have been doing shoot-and-burn are afraid to do IPS.
To me, it makes no sense to do it any other way. If you want to make very little money from each session and not have your client get the beautiful products that they deserve with your professional guidance, post photos online. Then they can see all the photos, send links to every person they know, and not need to purchase a single thing. You just cut your knees off. Go do 10 more jobs for each one you could have done doing IPS.
IPS takes skill. There are many courses and ways available to you, go pick one; that is beyond the scope of this. It requires you to guide your client to choose the best images, discuss retouching, framing and artwork and also choose products that they will enjoy. This is critical if you want with income you deserve for your hard work and skill.

Mistake number 5: Retouching preview prints.
I see photographers online constantly bemoaning the fact that all they do is retouch and they live in front of the computer. Part of it is because they spend time ‘pre-touching’ prints because they don’t believe the client can visualize the final prints. Give them more credit and stop fixing 40 images when they may only buy 3-5. See how much time that saves you.
There may be some instances where the finished print is a composite or has things added for some reason but for routine portraits, you’re wasting a LOT of time.
Mistake number 6: Justifying your price
We’ve all seen the posts that go into great detail about how much it cost to be in business and produce prints. You have overhead, you have insurance, taxes, blah, blah, blah. And when photographers see these posts they all get on the bandwagon and love the post and use it to explain why their 8×10 cost $76.38.
Enough!
When you walk into a Mercedes showroom does the salesman there go through a laundry list of items like new factory they just built, how much health care is costing them, etc? Of course not! It’s a freakin’ Mercedes; you know it cost more because they have BRANDED their products.
Do you ask the jeweler why the Rolex cost more than the Timex? Of course not, they do not address the same market. So stop it!
OWN your pricing! Be proud of it instead of making lame attempts to justify it. Set yourself apart from the mass of bottom feeders who make a mockery of those who choose to excel in this wonderful business that is a mysterious combination of art and science.
I probably wandered off topic, got a little personal and didn’t tighten things up as much as I should have. Maybe I even turned this into a bit of a rant.
But that’s OK, I ain’t no stinkin’ journalism major, I’m a photographer who sees many struggling or moving down the wrong path and with all the help available out there, I’m a photographer who sees many struggling or moving down the wrong path and with all the help available out there, there is just no need for it!
I think it was Charles Lewis who once said ‘Only seek advice from those who are where you want to be.’ So stop asking your brother what he thinks of your pricing or asking your mother what she thinks of your packages. That also goes for asking the photographer who has been in the trenches for six months for their advice.
So just STOP IT. Learn from those who are where you want to be.
Next issue I’ll discuss how your price list should be laid out to get the sales you want. There are some pretty specific guidelines that help your bottom line tremendously.
Steve Bedell has been a professional photographer for over 35 years. He has done weddings, portrait and
commercial work but now restricts his business to portraits only.
Steve holds the Master of Photography and Photographic Craftsman degrees from the Professional Photographers of America and is a PPA Approved Print Juror.
He has been named the New Hampshire Photographer of the Year a record 8 times and in 2011 was awarded the New England Photographer of the Year title. His specialty is natural light portraiture.
He has written hundreds of articles for photo publications, taught classes and workshops nationwide and produced several lighting DVDs. His private newsletter, EPhoto, reaches over 2000 photographers. Steve was a regular contributor to Shutterbug magazine.
by successfulbob | Guest Post, Lumix G9, travel photography
China Through the Eyes of Ken MacAdams – Part Two
We continue Ken’s story from last Friday. Check out Part One here.
Forbidden City
This lake is in a barrio outside the Forbidden City. The smog aids in coloration at sunset by diffusing the light. Many walk the pathways by the lake. All Photos in this post © Ken MacAdams 2018 All Rights Reserved
The Chinese take their tea seriously – and to be invited to a tea ceremony is a wonderful experience!
When we returned to Beijing, we walked down to the Forbidden City. Once the residence of the Emperor, and strictly off limits to the public, this treasure has been opened up to the public in recent years. It’s a walled city within itself, complete with a moat surrounding it. Within the walls, the Emperor, his wives, concubines, and children all had their appointed places. Only dignitaries or men on official business would be allowed into the great hall just inside the gate, where they could transact business with the Emperor. To facilitate trade from without the city, the Emperor had a canal dug, of which part is still accessible today.
The Grand Canal and ancient bridge dating back to 1154 A.D.
A little Beijing Info
About 1100 A.D. Beijing became the new capital of China, and has remained so until today. The original city wall and gate, along with many other old historic landmarks were destroyed during Chairman Mao’s Cultural Revolution. Today, the city’s population approaches the 30 million mark, and high-rise business and apartment buildings stretch as far as the eye can see. Smog presents an issue here as the government struggles to clean up the old smokestack industries. The mass of automobiles often overpowers the capacities of the highway system and long traffic jams are the norm at morning and evening rush hour. Public buses, taxi’s, and subways do their part to move the masses, and many resort to electric bicycles and scooters as a means of short haul commuting.
Even though we’d been busy hitting the streets, the effects of jet-lag was beginning to set in. We welcomed the quiet of our hotel room as the door clicked closed behind us. A good rest would help us move on to our next destination, the the adventures ahead.
Ken has always loved to travel, so when he made a common connection with the fact that either a long day pounding the streets of some foreign city, or shooting the last dance at a wedding, a good part of his physical

weariness came from lugging around his big heavy DSLR. That’s when he started looking at alternatives – and ended up selecting Panasonic Lumix Micro Four Thirds gear.
Ken is rarely without a camera, and the next great photo travel experience – whether local or abroad – is always in the back of his mind! A longtime resident of the Four Corners, and when he’s not out on the road, he enjoys some of the great outdoor opportunities found there – mountain biking, hiking, and Jeeping.
by successfulbob | photography, photography software
Luminar Software Update and Deal
Luminar 3
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Yours in Creative Photography, Bob
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